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Monday, August 27, 2012

Don't Hate Me Because I'm A Power Ballad




Anonymous commented on last week's post:

"And what about the power ballad? Guilty pleasure or waste of time?"

I've never liked the term "guilty pleasure" when referring to music. I'd like to think that if I like something it's because there's something there to like, unlike say "Seasons In The Sun" by Terry Jacks. Though, if you happen to like "Seasons In The Sun," then you must have found some redeeming qualities. No guilt, I say.

But the "power ballad," like heavy metal, seems to get no respect. Believe me, I understand. Sometimes.

I'd opt for a Hot Vicks enema over listening to "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" by Poison every time. But not every power ballad is as crappy as that stupid crappy piece of crapola.

Not sure why this comes to mind, as the original song is neither a power ballad nor heavy metal, but I know many who needed John Wesley Harding's acoustic take on Madonna's "Like A Prayer" to finally admit, "Hey that's a really great song."




I can't help but think if John Hiatt covered Steve Perry's "Oh Sherrie," that song would suddenly be in hot rotation for a lot of us. Irony rules, I guess.

What about this? Tolerance is non-existent in my life when it comes to Christina Aguilera, but it's mostly because of her melismatics. (And partly because of everything else.)

 Is this better?




Anonymous also mentioned Cheap Trick. He asked, "Why was 'The Flame' their biggest hit?"

I'd like to save Cheap Trick for another Burning Love? post, but I too am baffled by the success of "The Flame." Not necessarily because I hate the song, though I don't like it very much. I just don't think that particular song comes close to representing the best of what Cheap Trick has to offer. So my issue is not with the "power ballad," but with the people who made "The Flame" a bigger success than "Mandocello." Who are you? Show yourself!







I happen to like the next song. It's "Unbelieveable" by America's favorite punching bag, Def Leppard.  Again, this is not about whether or not this song is as worthy as Hoagy Carmichael's "Stardust" or "Sir Paul's "For No One." (What is?) I just wonder occasionally...or maybe more than occasionally...why this particular "sound" is such a mighty turn-off.

I will give you this--the cheap drum machine and chintz 'n' glitz production are not the wisest of sonic decisions. But, strip it of its gloss, come down a bit on the bombast and that melody on the chorus rivals many of our favorite, well-respected tunes. Couldn't you hear Adam and Chris of Fountains Of Wayne harmonizing and absolutely killing this tune?

 I feel no guilt.






If you're still with me, tell me:

Fave power ballad?

Why you'd rather have a Hot Vicks enema than listen to Journey?

That said, I think this is one, hook-filled monster of a song, Yamaha DX7 notwithstanding.

(Guilty pleasure?)




42 comments:

  1. When I saw the photo of Steve Perry atop your post, I thought you were going to name my favorite power ballad, "Foolish Heart." I've always been impervious to the charms of Journey, but the melody of the chorus, in particular, teamed with Perry's not-quite over-the-top Rod Stewartish vocal gets me every time. Is "Missing You" a power ballad? If so, I'll nominate it, too.

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  2. So, is "Separate Ways" a Power Ballad? I would have categorized it as more a "rock" song. Now, "Faithfully" -- *that's* a power ballad.

    How rocking does a song have to be (or not be) before it's no longer a "ballad"? Does a Power Ballad have to have an electric guitar in it somewhere? Or is it just "the slow song from a group/artist that normally doesn't do slow songs?"


    My nominations (cliched and tired as they may be):

    Sweet Child O' Mine

    Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad (though maybe its the vocal delivery that makes this "power" more than the instrumentation -- Hell the entire "Bat Out of Hell" album probably qualifies here...)

    Everytime I Think Of You (The Babys) Or maybe "Isn't It Time"?

    I'll Stand By You (by the Pretenders)


    These are the ones that jumped out off the top of my head. I can probably come up with a dozen more...


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  3. Power ballads, like anything else has to grab you in a way that any song really does. It has to be melodic with good instrumentation and vocals. Two that just popped into my head, and there are probably many if I had the time to research.

    First a nice tune by a little known 70's German band Lake called Do I Love You. It just glides smoothly on your ballad strings, beautiful.

    The second, and when I cue this up for listening every now and then, it sticks in my head for a week. A great ballad by the Tubes 1981 classic LP The Completion Backward Principle, I Don't Want To Wait Anymore. I guarantee, it'll be stuck in your head for a week. And here they are, just open them up and enjoy.

    http://youtu.be/kk9osHyB-ac
    http://youtu.be/JxmpfHmZHSM

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  4. I heard "Everytime I Think of You" on the car radio this weekend and thought, "Hey, that wasn't half-bad." Maybe it's the repetitive play that popular power ballads get that grates the most.

    Def Leppard's "Hysteria" was the spotlight dance at my wedding so that's my sentimental no. 1.

    Todd's "The Last Ride" - the power ballad as soul workout.

    Stu Daye's "Sushi" was my younger self's favorite. Somebody is offering a copy of Free Parking on Amazon for $22 as we speak.

    Aerosmith should be banned from attempting anymore ballads.

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  5. In general, ballads don't get on my mixes. Give me a mid tempo rocker almost all the time. That said, A good "power" ballad is kind of a holy grail, like "smart" hard rock. Always a thrill, once excavated.
    Here, for me is a double whammy, Smart and slow burning.
    "Gudbuy Gudbye" by Slade, circa the magic year of 1972.

    http://alanwalkerart.com/audio/gudbuy_gudbuy.mp3

    I just listened to it again, and I'm sorry, it isn't a ballad nohow, just a slow rocker I'm not sorry to share. I'll find a real ballad later.

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  6. Discovering a good power ballad can be exhilarating.
    How "Smile" never became a big hit for Cheap Trick I'll never know.
    Other power ballads that come to mind: "Empty Rooms" by Gary Moore; "I Wouldn't Want To Lose Your Love," April Wine; "Emotional Fire," by Sunstorm; "My Guardian Angel," by Place Vendome; "She Is Everything," by Spocks Beard; "Everything Changes," by Flying Colors; "Beautiful," by Marillion and finally "The Answer Lies Within," by Dream Theater. Just some power ballads off my ipod playlists. I might even include "Midnight Caller," by Badfinger - the song is powerful and it is a ballad.

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  7. Here's an actual ballad that's turned up in numerous mixes over the years. Nick Caves' "The Moon Is In The Gutter", which was the "B" side of his "In The Ghetto" single from 1984. I love Blixa Bargeld's guitar "disintegrating" in the background. Not exactly your standard "power" ballad, but.......

    http://alanwalkerart.com/audio/the _moon_is_in_the_gutter.mp3

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  8. "I Want to Know What Love is" is the one I pretend to hate but actually like quite a lot.

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  9. Have you ever TRIED a hot Vick's enema? It's actually not bad.

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  10. How about a couple of proto-type power ballads from Aerosmith...you Seen Me Cryin' and Home Tonight. They were always good for a great slow one each record back in the day. That said the string of hits in the 90's was pretty awful. Diane Warren...no thanks.

    That said I could live without ever hearing any of the pretty much horrible power ballad hits from the 80's. Poison? Uh...no thank you.

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  11. As I said on FB, you don't have to love or hate power ballads per se......you can just love or hate the song....Journey(with Perry,not Rolie)is cringe-inducing garbage at its best....but on the other hand,w/o much thought-time, I'd say Don't Ever Say Goodbye by Derringer is a favorite...a BIG BIG favorite....

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  12. I think for the sake of this post, the term "power ballad" will be what we've come to know it as, thanks to the MTV-Age coining of the phrase. Not a ballad with power, or an upbeat love song with power chords.

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  13. Don't know much about power ballads, but Rex Hobart & the Misery Boys do a country version of "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" that makes it quite listenable. Couldn't find it on Youtube.

    J. Loslo

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  14. New Yorkers may not be able to relate as well to this, but there is nothing like taking a long drive (anywhere, really- and no matter what the weather, unless it's bad out beyond belief), and cranking up a power ballad to sing along to. My favorites that come immediately to mind: Candlebox "Far Behind", Kiss' "Beth", Damn Yankees' "High Enough", Honeymoon Suite's "What Does it Take", and Alice Cooper's "You and Me". I forced myself to keep from listing The Tubes (someone mentioned that song above) Todd,(too many to chose from) and Elvis Costello (just because).

    I know - millions of Journey fans can't be wrong, blah. They have always been on my hate list. That being said - I do have an open mind, and (mostly open) ears.. (and since Steve Perry has been replaced by his Filipino look-alike whom I am told is worlds better) I have been talked into going to the Cleveland show in just a few weeks. Thank God Pat Benatar is opening..

    By the way - love the JWH track - I like just about anything he does (Me Against Me, anyone?)- kind of cool and he manages to keep it from sounding like a karaoke fave.

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  15. Okay here's an interesting thought. 2 people have now mentioned Todd Rundgren and The Tubes. And Marcia, along with Todd and The Tubes, added Elvis C. Would these artists fall into the "power ballad" category if we kept the definition closer to the MTV idea of "power ballads?"

    The term "power ballad" gets an involuntary hairy eyeball when mentioned. But do the great ballads of Todd or Elvis or Stevie or John & Paul or.....

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  16. "Dream On" (yeah, Aerosmith could do it right once upon a time), "I'll Be There For You" by Bon Jovi (Yep), "What It Takes" (Aerosmith again- 16 years later), "Bringing on The Heartbreak" (Def Leppard), "Home Sweet Home" (Motley Crue), "18 And Life" (Skid Row) and especially "Love Song" (Tesla) are songs I can never turn off. Ever.

    And, for the record, power ballads, to me are by definition performed by heavy metal or hard rock bands. Elvis Costello doing "Beautiful", to me, is just a ballad. Not a power ballad.


    Not sure where that definition comes from. But it's mine.

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  17. The great Richard Hawley making a kick arse power ballad from Jesus & Mary Chain ditty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZKukz1pf1k

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  18. Try Me by UFO
    Street of Dreams and Stone Cold by Rainbow
    All 80's MTV inspired power ballads.

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  19. A walk in the woodsAugust 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    First - thanks for trying to put the idea of "guilty pleasures" to rest. If being hip in my music tastes were all I was interested in, I would have given up on music a long time ago. Because I am a child of the radio - raised on Casey Kasum in the 70s -- and there are no guilty pleasures. It's either a good song or not I mix John Denver into my iTunes mixes, for crissakes!

    As for power ballads, I love a big ol ballad. I like "Take It To The Limit" and I like "My Love."

    I'm also one of the few who probably likes The Rolling Stones as much for their ballads - power or not - as their rockers. I have a whole playlist of their quieter songs, from "Worried About You" to "Lady Jane" to "Out Of Tears" and I probably listen to it more than my upbeat Stones playlists.

    Same with the Zep. "Going To California" and "Black Mountain Side" and That's The Way" aren't power ballads, but I'd be much less a Zep fan if not for that side of them.

    Nice job also connecting the dots between Def Leppard and Fountains Of Wayne. Jeez, that is right on. What's the difference? FOW has all their arms. Otherwise, that song is modern power pop.

    - p.s. Chris Bell - great call on that Richard Hawling song. To me, that guy is a modern MASTER. Nobody seems to know about him.
    - A Walk In The Woods

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  20. "Love Hurts" by Nazareth. And I totally agree with OldRockr1 re: the closing tracks from Aerosmith's "Toys in the Attic" and "Rocks" - much better than anything else they put forth in the Nineties.

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  21. I can't really dissociate power ballads from hair/heavy metal (otherwise I'd nominate Wild Horses). Most power ballads I disliked on first listening due to the gloss or the inanity of the video. But with the passage of time, there are some (many mentioned above) that have stuck and that I even find myself putting on playlists. Three additional ones to mention: Miles Away by Winger, Fly to the Angels by Slaughter, and (I'm surprised no one listed this one because it's too obvious/Rock of Ages) Sister Christian by Night Ranger. The latter is interesting because it's one of the few songs written and sung by their drummer Kelly Keagy. I'm a big Jack Blades fan, but this is one of the few NR hits that wasn't his.

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  22. "Total Eclipse of the Heart" - written AND produced by Jim Steinman. Just throwing it out there b/c the video still leaves me speechless.

    Not sure why, but I've never liked any of Heart's ballad hits. otoh, Foreigner, a band I love to hate, had "Waiting for a Girl Like You" which I don't mind.

    "Bringing on the Heartbreak" is probably my least favorite Leppard track, just because of how hard Mercury pushed it. Rereleased High and Dry with it closing both the first and second sides, then released it twice with different (bad) videos.

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  23. Huh? No one mentioned "Stairway to Heaven" or "Free Bird"?! Are those the source waters from which all power ballads flow?

    Bruce H.

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  24. With all due respect @Marcia I understand what you're saying but I work in NYC and live on Long Island. I drive a lot, especially on weekend mornings on the North Fork, it's beautiful and fairly open, the LIE is too at the right times going east, and an open road never makes me, personally, want to listen to Journey. Bands like them for me are for karaoke and parties. I still prefer Springsteen on the radio, prefer him to Bon Jovi who emulate him, their execution clumsier than his. I think that may be why some of us think of certain bands, especially the power band practitioners as "guilty pleasures" because as fun as they can be, they can sometimes sound like pretenders, not the real deal. For some of us. A friend once said that sometimes she preferred Bon Jovi to Bruce, because she could put Bon Jovi in the background, she didn't feel like she needed to savor them. She felt that Bruce she wanted to give full attention to. Perhaps a charm of the true power ballad is it's a bit lazy but attractively so.

    When it comes to so called guilty pleasures, I will take Def Lep and "Bringing on the Heartbreak" over say "Wanted Dead or Alive" (is that a power ballad? I guess not. What is it??? They're cowboys on steel horses???). Def Leppard...those records just pop. They seem to be in on the joke too, and more clever than their peers. I know they're not The Beatles or Stones. Who is? They are not even the Black Crowes, still okay. Pour some sugar on me. ha.ha.

    Oh, Madonna. She's smart, surrounds herself with great people and they help her make good records. "Like a Prayer" is one of them. Never thought of it as a power ballad though. Love the JWH cover. Tori Amos does a great one too.

    The first power ballad that came to mind is "The Flame". I love it, proudly. It's Robin Zander and the boys!!! That elevates it right there. It's not the best Cheap, but so what? I'm not blind to the bad in bands I adore but compared to "Every Rose Has its Thorn" this is...well,it's Robin Zander singing!!! He's not smarmy, he phrases sublimely. He's Robin Zander. As far as "Every Rose..." it does mean something to many people, I remember my brother after his first breakup playing it incessantly. Like I played Nazareth's version of "Love Hurts".

    "Sweet Child O' Mine" I don't think of as a power ballad, it's a rock ballad like the Stones would do. It's more like the Crowes' "She Talks to Angels. It's too subtle in some ways. "Sweet Child..." is overplayed but quite beautiful, very well done. "I'll Remember You" by Skid Row/Sebastian Bach is more power balladry to me, and I like it a lot.

    Another choice would be Foreigner's "Waiting for a Girl Like You" perhaps less power-worthy than "I Want to Know What Love Is" but I think it's a superior song.


    I just realized I picked some of the songs anonymous picked, not on purpose, I hadn't read it yet.


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  25. My list, with the power ballad definition getting streched a bit:
    Scorpions- Still Loving You
    Boston- A Man I'll Never Be
    Prince- Purple Rain
    Bon Jovi- Never Say Goodbye (my high school prom them song, sentimental)
    Triumph- Fight the Good Fight
    Styx- Come Sail Away
    Tesla- Paradise
    Lynyrd Skynyrd- Simple Man
    Smashing Pumpkins- Soma
    Radiohead- Creep

    Sorry, the Def Leppard song sounds like it could have been produced for Kelly Clarkson!

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  26. @DaveF, 'Try Me'! Awesome song, can't hear it enough.

    Some of the songs mentioned here are just 'slow' songs with audible lyrics done by artists typically known for distortion. That doesn't make them power ballads. Also, songs that may sound like power ballads done by bands not known for Rock/Metal (Radiohead, Todd, Bon J-O, etc) should not fall into this category.

    Though, many good pb's mentioned in this thread. Making a new playlist with those I have.

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  27. I'm so glad I still had this open. I knew I missed one!!! Thank you tumblingdice1970...my all time guilty, play it all the time, don't know why is "A Man I'll Never Be" by Boston. (I said I love "The Flame" but I don't feel guilty listening to that). Why don't I like "More Than a Feeling" better? I do, but I don't play it as often. "Man I'll Never Be" is sort of like a cheap version of nacho chips when I can't find Doritos. I'll take it anyway and with abandon, but after I've finished I'm thinking I should have waited for the real thing. And yet I will repeat the pattern another time.

    Um, what is wrong with Kelly Clarkson? She's a wonderful singer, with heart and intelligence. I think I found another one, "Because of You". Yep. Especially the version w/Kelly and Reba, cos everything is better with a bit of Reba. It's very power worthy since it's often misunderstood, I mean it's played at weddings and proms, and is dedicated on radio shows to loved ones, but the singer is basically telling the ex-lover, friend, whomever " yeah you piece of s...,thanks, because of you I'm afraid to cross the street...". If "Beautiful", a song I love, oh if only Christina A could be subtle, can be mentioned here, so should "Because of You".

    "Simple Kind of Man" great choice, definitely a stretch, I put it in the "She Talks to Angels" category. "Come Sail Away" definitely, I don't love it but it used to remind me of my friends Cathy and Patty and Joseph, but now it just reminds me of Eric Cartman. ;) "Creep" is an alternative version of a power ballad for sure.

    Okay I'm done! Cheers.

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  28. "A Man I'll Never Be" is a MONSTER of a song. Great pick!

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  29. a proto pb, Ellen Foley's We Belong to the Night. I imagine Ellen opening her mouth to sing and the engineer scrambling to reset all of the levels.

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  30. Foreigner's I Want To Know What Love Is was so big that it derailed the band and never recovered from it. Lou and Mick are not unlike Don and Glenn or the Supertramp duo that could not get along after such a gigantic success. Eddie even hired Mick to produce 5150 and got VH to create power ballads for the first time

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  31. More Than Words by Extreme. Not sure if it's a power ballad. It lacks power. I still think its a great song by a group I would never listen to otherwise.

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  32. Let me add this, re: Extreme, Nuno is a major talent. He's not just a stellar guitar player, but he has an ear for melody and harmony. "More Than Words" is wonderful. But, like most of Extreme's material, it is sabotaged by Gary Cherone's lack of finesse. He sings songs like he's stomping out a campfire.

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  33. Does gary moore's "Still Have the Blues" count?

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  34. For me, the problem with Journey isn't so much the songs -- I can listen to DSB sung by a local winery cover band and hear the hook -- but Steve Perry was (is?) a hideous little dwarf. It comes through in his voice, in the videos, and definitely in Oh Sherrie!

    So now Journey is a band with a lead singer who imitates a hideous little dwarf. Wow -- that is much better.

    Yes, I have issues about this.

    (Beyond that, there is little that is more loathsome than a power ballad.)

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  35. Well, after a little research, I came up with some of these while staying in the vein of the post. Plus maybe contribute to the super holiday weekend mix you have in store for us.

    Alanna Myles- Black Velvet
    John Waite- Missing You
    Love Hurts- Nazareth
    Righteous Bros.- You've Lost That Lovin Feeling
    10cc- The Things We Do For Love
    Any ballad by The Everly Bros. or Roy Orbison
    Elton John- Candle In The Wind (or any one of his ballads)
    Styx- Lady
    Hall and Oates- She's Gone
    Simon and Garfunkel- Bridge Over Troubled Water
    The Eagles- I Can't Tell You Why
    Buddy Holly- True Love Ways
    Bryan Adams- Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman
    Jimi Hendrix- Little Wing
    Bob Seger- Main Street
    Richie Valens- Donna
    Green Day- Time Of Your Life

    These are just ones that I thought, maybe. Like I said, there are zillions. But I'm getting tired. Let's stick with some of these. See what you think.

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  36. Thank you for giving Journey a little bit of respect. "Separate Ways" does me in every time I hear it. "Bringing on the Heartache" was already mentioned a few times, and I think Aerosmith's "Hole in my Soul" needs to added to the list.

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  37. From "Road Song" by Fountains of Wayne:

    "But did I happen to say hey
    I've been writing you a road song
    Don't run away cause hey
    I promise it won't be too long
    I know it's not what you'd call necessary
    And I know that I'm no Steve Perry
    But even if you roll your eyes and groan
    I'm still writing you a road song
    That you can call your own."

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  38. Montrose didn't do many ballads, but Music Man from Jump on It used to be a favorite air guitar/hairbrush song.

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  39. If Little Wing is a power ballad then count me in. But most of them don't float my boat and with regard to Journey, the nurse can definitely go ahead and prep me for the Vicks.

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  40. How about "Sadie" by Hound Dog Taylor? No one else could ever make a power ballad like that!

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  41. After reading all the commentary, It's clear that I don't have time for power ballads. I hate every song cited in the dialog.
    "Little Wing" is def not one. I love that song.

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  42. a coincidentally-timed Valentine to Def Leppard - http://thequietus.com/articles/09833-def-leppard-hysteria

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